Rajiv Sethi – Self-Censorship on Campus

My guest this week is Rajiv Sethi, professor of economics at Barnard and Columbia. We’ve collaborated on papers and pedagogical projects, we’ve criticized each other’s work, and we’ve remained remained friends for decades now. In this conversation, we run the gamut, from Israel-Palestine to free speech to some fairly technical economics talk to, what else, my memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative. The Gaza War has brought the issue of campus speech back to the fore. Some students and faculty fear that saying the wrong thing about the conflict will put them on the wrong end of censorious mob, and the public positions taken by many university administrations aren’t helping. But Rajiv goes back to my essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse,” to explain why administrative neutrality is a necessary but insufficient condition to solve the self-censorship problem on campus. Rajiv wrote a very nice blurb for my forthcoming memoir, and we discuss how game theory informs the book’s content and structure. We then delve into Rajiv’s fascinating work on police use-of-force and the predictive value of markets. The pioneering economist Bob Solow recently died. He was my dissertation advisor back in the 1970s at MIT, and he mentored a staggering number of other influential economists. Rajiv spent some time tracing his influence over the profession. And finally, I ask Rajiv whether he takes pride in the accomplishments of his fellow Indian-Americans, and his answer is surprising! It’s always a pleasure to reconnect with Rajiv. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Join Discord Sign Up for City Journal’s Newsletter City Journal provides rigorous analysis that allows you to reach your own conclusions, rather than rehashing ideologically “safe” talking points. Explore it for yourselves and sign up for their free newsletter today. Sign Up Now Order from Amazon Order from Barnes & Noble Order from Bookshop.org 0:00 The conversations that aren’t happening on college campuses 4:16 Staying informed about Israel-Palestine 9:22 Glenn: Don’t subject me to a loyalty test 12:14 Rajiv: High-minded principles alone won’t solve the self-censorship problem 18:11 “The Naked Emperor Equilibrium” 21:52 The game theoretical aspect of Glenn’s memoir 25:35 An homage to Thomas Schelling 27:31 Rajiv’s work on police use-of-force, then and now 30:36 The predictive value of political betting markets 42:44 Robert Solow’s intellectual family tree 46:16 The lopsided distribution of elite economists 49:08 Rajiv: Big econ departments should take more chances on candidates 51:52 The mind-boggling geographical variation in police killings 56:09 Why Rajiv doesn’t take pride in other Indian-Americans’ success Recorded January 26, 2024 Links and Readings Noam Dworman’s TGS appearance Noam Dworman’s podcast, Live from the Table Norman Finkelstein and Eli Lake on Live from the Table Benny Morris’s book, One State, Two States: Resolving the Israel/Palestine Crisis Rashid Khalidi on Live from the Table Benny Morris on Live from the Table Tara Henley’s Lean Out Ilan Pappé’s book, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine Glenn’s essay, “Self-Censorship in Public Discourse: A Theory of ‘Political Correctness’ and Related Phenomena Glenn’s conversation with Omer Bartov Glenn’s conversation with Norman Finkelstein Norman Finkelstein’s book, I’ll Burn That Bridge When I Get to It!: Heretical Thoughts on Identity Politics, Cancel Culture, and Academic Freedom Glenn’s conversation with John Mearsheimer John Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt’s book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy University of Chicago’s 1967 Kalven Committee Report University of Chicago’s 2014 “Chicago Principles” on freedom of expression Elisabeth Noelle-Neumann’s book, The Spiral of Silence: Public Opinion—Our Second Skin Timur Kuran’s book, Private Truths, Public Lies: The Social Consequences of Preference Falsification Thomas Schelling’s book, The Strategy of Conflict Rajiv and Brendan O’Flaherty’s book, Shadows of Doubt: Stereotypes, Crime, and Pursuit of Justice Rajiv and Brendan O’Flaherty’s article, “Stereotypes, Crime, and Policing” Gunnar Myrdal’s book, An American Dilemma: The Negro Problem and Modern Democracy Rajiv’s Substack, Imperfect Information Rajiv’s Substack post, “Economic Growth and the Growth of Economics: Reflections on Robert Solow” Ralph Ellison’s essay 1970 essay, “What America Would Be Like without Blacks” Glenn Loury. © 2024 Glenn Loury 548 Market Street PMB 72296, San Francisco, CA 94104